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RDA Salon Notes

RDA vs. AACR2: Implications for Social Justice, Featuring Rick Block
Monday January 11, 2010 (Notes by Jessa Lingel)

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Hi Long Haul,

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QUESTION: what software to use to create catalog of zines for our infoshop?

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Hello,
This is more of a library logistics type question, but I figured I'd try here because it seems some of yall would have experience with this sort of thing. We are looking to catalog our zine archive at our infoshop, which is quite large (25 years worth of zines). We'd like a program that: can be used on both macs and pcs, imported and exported between computers, can be eventually put online and linked from our website, and has fields that are flexible to accommodate the fact that these are zines and not books (slightly different information will be cataloged). Can you recommend a program that we use, given that we don't host our site and we don't have linux on our computers? We looked at Librarything but are wary about having it hosted by something big and unknown given the content of our zines (paranoid?). I've also looked at MS access but don't know too much about it (esp. about putting it online...?)
Thanks!

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Hi Long Haul,

This is a question we spent some time discussing at the Zine Libraries (un)Conference last spring in Seattle. Of the five we considered for a shared catalog, and given your constraints, <!--break-->I do think LibraryThing could be a good way to go, though I appreciate your concern. LibraryThing's librarian is a zine advocate. Having a member library to work with might help her efforts to make LT more zine friendly. She should also be able to respond appropriately to your content concerns.

Almost any solution will cost a little dough, so if you'd rather spend it on software than labor, you could look into Athaeneum. I believe it's more or less an adapted version of FileMaker Pro (which kicks MS Access's ass). Email the folks at QZAP to get their take on it. I do not recommend Microsoft Access.

A potentially free option would be a hosted WordPress or Blogger blog. Ms. Valerie Park is a zine distro that uses the latter.

If you can wait until they offer hosting, I recommend Omeka. It's an images/archives friendly catalog that I think is a little more 21st century and possibly more out of the box friendly than some of the other tools out there. The Barnard Center for Research on Women recently implemented Omeka for their print ephemera collection. They did have to pay a developer a couple hundred bucks (not sure of exact cost) to help them with their install.

You might want to join the Zine Librarians list to discuss this further, and you're welcome to contact me directly.

Jenna, Barnard Library Zine Librarian

RDA vs. AACR2: Implications for Social Justice, Featuring Rick Block

Monday January 11, 2010
7-9:00 pm
Sixth Street Community Center
638 East Sixth Street (between Avenues B & C)
Free, but attendees will be asked to donate a few bucks to help pay for the space rental

The NYC collective of Radical Reference will host a "people's university" style salon to discuss RDA vs. AACR2: Implications for Social Justice.

Rick Block will be leading off the discussion with a rundown of the issues and implications of RDA. Participants will be strongly encouraged to sign up to read one of the articles posted below, and be prepared to report on it at the meeting. See the bibliography from the OCLC salon discussion we held last January for an example of how this works.

  1. Please add items you think people should read ahead of time.
  2. Please keep them in anti-chronological order.
  3. Feel free, encouraged even, to provide some annotation.
  4. Please volunteer to summarize one item for the group at the salon by putting your name after it in parentheses, like this: (Farfel)
  5. If you can't/don't want to edit the page to add a citation or claim an article, just say what you want in a comment.

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Irene,

Apologies for taking so long to respond, but our website has been down since shortly after you submitted your question.

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QUESTION: zine cataloging

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Hi,
I'm beginning a paper about cataloguing zines and self-published material. Do you know of any good articles about cataloguing zines? Do you know of any notable zine collections? Any major zine collections I should know about in the New York Metropolitan area? Any information about how to catalogue zines would be much appreciated.

Thank you,
Irene

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Irene,

Apologies for taking so long to respond, but our website has been down since shortly after you submitted your question.

Do you know of any good articles about cataloguing zines?
Basically do a search in the Library Literature database on {zine* and catalog*} and see what you come up with. If you are in library school, your university provides access. If you are an undergrad you might not have access. In that case, I suggest doing the same search in a multidisciplinary database like ProQuest or Academic Search. <!--break-->

There is also a nice little zine bibliography in Zine Librarian Zine #3. It's toward the end of the zine. btw, if you're going to cite ZLZ3, you might like to consult Cite This Zine on how to do so. There is an article on cataloging zines in ZLZ3, but you should note that zine cataloging to some extent is being made as we (zine librarians) go along. I wrote about how we catalog zines at the Barnard College Library zine collection in Radical Cataloging: Essays at the Front. Let me know if you want me to email you the pre-print. The Union Catalog discussion at the Zine Librarians Conference might also be of interest.

Do you know of any notable zine collections? Any major zine collections I should know about in the New York Metropolitan area?

In NYC:
ABC No Rio
Barnard College Library
New York Public Library
Pratt Institute

Also, note the American spelling of catalog and cataloging when doing your research. (Don't feel bad, The New York Times uses the British spelling, too.)

To visit the Barnard Zine Collection, give me (Jenna) a holler at zines@barnard.edu.

Problems with the Cataloging of the Graphic Novel "Palestine" and Zionist narratives

For those of you who don't know Joe Sacco's amazing graphic novel journalism, you should.

In my new position as a teen services librarian i was doing a search of different graphic novels in my library system, and found some problematic cataloging of Joe Sacco's Palestine.

QUESTION: Alternative subject thesauri

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I'm not sure if this is an appropriate "Radical Reference" question but I'll give it a try. I'm currently cataloguing a zine collection for the Anchor Archive Zine Library in Halifax. Each zine record has a broad category plus multiple subject terms/keywords describing the content. Assigning subject terms to each zine is challenging, and I think it would be a lot easier if I had a thesaurus of subject terms to refer to, such as Library of Congress Subject Headings but for collections of alternative media. I've tried looking up online catalogues for other zine libraries and alternative bookstores for lists of subject headings, but I haven't found anything yet. Most don't seem to index their content by subject, which is probably smart considering how time consuming it is. I've also posted a message on the Zine Librarians Yahoo Group listserv but I didn't get many responses. Do you have any other suggestions of where I could find alternative thesauri, for alternative media in general or in specific subject areas, such as feminism and anarchism? I would really appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

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Hey Amanda, Your message to the Zine Librarians list is in my inbox. I've been meaning to respond!

This is something we've struggled with in Radical Reference, too. Right now we're just free tagging, but I think some of us feel that as librarians, we should be using a thesaurus.

We considered using the Sandy Berman & friends' thesaurus from the Hennepin County Public Library in Minnesota, but it stopped in 2002, so there's a lot of ground to make up. Plus it's not necessarily in a form that is yet easy to handle.

Another thesaurus we've discussed is that of the Alternative Press Index. They continue to update it and a couple of years ago agreed to sell us access to it, for a very reasonable price. The main thing that stopped us was not having the local energy or expertise to turn whatever they would export (I think from InDesign?) into something we could use.

Finally, and I know it's a stretch sometimes, I've been using LCSH at Barnard and keeping track of the subject headings I apply on a published spreadsheet. I would be glad to make that a shared document if you wanted to collaborate. I could also imagine this being the basis for a blend of LCSH and your own zine-onomy. When no heading seems appropriate or the one that exists doesn't really serve, you could note that on the sheet, cross-reference it, and make a new heading that does work for you. Does that make sense?

And one more thing--there's a library school project zine thesaurus on the Zine Librarians group file page. I assume Courtney would be happy for you to use it. I have another one by a different library school student in my files. I will email it to you separately and to anyone else who asks.

If I didn't interpret your question correctly, or if you have follow up, please don't hesitate to post again!

Radical Cataloging

Jessamyn just turned me on to K.R. Roberto's new book, Radical Cataloging: Essays at the Front. Go out and buy one for every librarian that you know. Really, do it now!!

(admission: I've now added Jenna's feed because I woulda known about the book earlier if I'd just read the Lower East Side Librarian!!)

Library of Congress Subject Heading Blog-a-Thon: Response from LC

Here is a response from Anthony R.D. Franks Team Leader, Cooperative Cataloging Team Library of Congress, published with his permission (links added and typos fixed):

Thank you for your recent e-mail about the Blog-a-Thon. It will be interesting to see what your group comes up with next time. To facilitate matters, please let me know ahead of time. As we usually identify proposals by institution and not by group, it's always a good idea to include a note in the 952 field--perhaps "Blogathon returns!"

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